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Like milk and cookies to a sweet tooth, what Ebony and Ivory was to Stevie and Paul, you’re pen and paper to the literary world…an attractive combination. And it’s a combination that delivered 6 novels into the literary world. Novels like
"Exposures",
"Better Than I Know Myself" ,
“Far From the Tree”,
“Tryin to Sleep in the Bed You Made”,
“Gotta Keep on Tryin”, “
What Doesn’t Kill You”, all in a time span of 1989, with Exposure being your first novel, to present.
And now…”Uptown”…your most recent release. (available at
amazon.com and at
Barnes and Nobles
Win a copy of UPTOWN: Post the link to this blog on your FB or Twitter pages; leave a comment here for the authors and a winner will be selected by Friday March 5thThis is truly an honor. Welcome to my see through soul, and thank you for the time taken to let myself and my readers into your world.
Onika Pascal: In 1989 I was scanning the pages of my encyclopedia collection, feeding my mind with all sorts of wonders of the world, and you ladies were breaking the surface of the literary world. “Exposures” your first novel. What was the plot to this gem?
DeBerry and Grant: We met each other while we were in the fashion business, and advice to writers always says write what you know, so Brett Larsen, the main character of Exposures is a fashion photographer, daughter of a multi-married socialite mother who is on the down slide and granddaughter of a transportation magnate. The story focuses on Brett’s struggle to succeed in a highly competitive business, and find love in her life while navigating her dysfunctional relationship with her mother, her family’s secret and disturbing past which comes back to threaten her in ways she could never anticipate. We actually both re-read Exposures recently and while we have grown as writers, the book is still a fun read.
OP: After the release of “Exposures”, did you know that you’d be in the business 6 novels later?
DBG: After publishing one book, we were sure we were on our way to a long, happy publishing career. Our commitment was tested to the extreme, however. We worked on what we thought would be our next book, but our agent was unable to sell it. Editors said they liked our writing, just not that book, but they all wanted to see what we did next. That’s not the answer you’re looking for after you spend a year working on a project. But we were encouraged by the fact that editors still wanted to see more from us. So we regrouped, did a lot of talking about the kind of characters we’d really like to write about, and came up with the story that became Tryin’ to Sleep in the Bed You Made. That whole process took five years, but we stuck with it and have been writing and publishing regularly ever since.
OP: As an aspiring writer, I decided to use a pseudonym as well. My middle name as my first and my first name as my last….Onika Pascal. Not many people believe my first name to be Pascalle (it’s male), and I’ve always wished Onika was my first…writing afforded that for me. As I read the snippet for “Exposure”, I saw that you used the pseudonym Marie Joyce. How’d you decide whose name would go first?
DBG: Well, Virginia’s middle name is Joyce, and Donna’s is Marie. You don’t get to use your middle name very often so a pseudonym seemed a great place for them. We decided on Marie Joyce because we liked the sound better than Joyce Marie. The only reason we didn’t use our own names from the beginning was because the publisher didn’t think readers would “get” a novel written by two people. Our next publisher, however, let us be open and notorious as ourselves. And as for whose name went first, that was a decision about sound as well. DeBerry and Grant is easier to say than Grant and DeBerry (try it out loud—too many t and d sounds together), so we went with it.
OP: From the runway to the pages of entertaining story lines. A transition fit for a story line itself. How’d you make the changeover?
DBG: Fashion was really the strangest transition for both of us. We were both English majors who always loved to read. Virginia even taught English for almost ten years. Donna worked at a newspaper and had always wanted to be a writer. When we seriously decided to write a book, we brought together all of our feelings about storytelling. As for the business side, we bought a book about writing a novel and getting it published. We wanted to see how to present our work, how a manuscript should look and find out the steps we should take to get a book deal. We were very fortunate. We found an agent who was willing to work with us very quickly. Once we gave her the synopsis, character sketches and sample chapters for Exposures, she sold it in two weeks!
OP: Co-authors! I find myself battling to put a story out on my own. How do you do it as a team? Do ideas clash? How do you agree on how the story goes?
DBG: We realize this is not always the case, but the elements that make us best friends also work for us when we write together. We are alike in a lot of ways, but totally different in many others. Those characteristics keep the mix lively. We start every story with what we call “What iffing,” tossing ideas around until we get a flow we like. If we disagree, we keep talking until we find common ground. Egos are left outside—what we care about is telling a story that keeps readers needing to turn the pages to find out what happens next. We always say we are the author, not the authors. It has always been important that we write with one voice.
OP: Was it popular back then to have novels written by co-authors? How was your duet taken by agents and publishers?
DBG: There were some teams writing when we started—Judith Michael a husband and wife team, for example—but in fiction they had always gone by one name. Agents and publishers were OK with it, as long as you produced work that flowed. Collaborations in music, film and theater are quite the norm but for some odd reason, publishers just didn’t believe that readers would accept a two-headed, four handed writer. We were early in the trend to put both names on the cover. Our editor liked the idea of a novel, “By and about best friends,” so we’ve been out in the open ever since. Good thing—keeping secrets is boring.
OP: I browsed your website for a bit and noticed you list of tour dates. All I can say is wow. This must be a very exciting journey. You’ve done this so many times...is there ever a time the rush feel different?
DBG: Sometimes the travel gets hard—flying used to be fun. Now is a lot more drudgery—take off your shoes, put the liquids in plastic bags, pull out the laptop, blah, blah. And waking up in a different hotel room, in a different city every day can be crazy making. Yes, we’ll get tired on the road, very tired—Virginia even fell asleep during a reading once! But getting to meet readers is still great. We are honored that folks take the time to come see us, because we know everyone is busy. Through the years there are people we have come to know and we look forward to seeing them again. And there are new people who have just found us and want to say hello, or give us a hug. That never gets old.
OP: I for one am glad that you have made the contributions that you have thus far. Though you have many titles under your belt, can we talk about “Uptown”? “Uptown” is the latest addition to the family. I’ve read the excerpt and definitely felt prominence, money, greed, family conflict.
Can you give a better insight/ background on “Uptown”? Let the readers know what they’re about to get into.DBG: We have all watched as politicians, athletes, and business people crash and burn when their dirty laundry gets aired in public. We wanted to see what that feels like to those involved. We chose the world of real estate as the setting for Uptown because the real estate boom was the gold rush of the 2000’s. Newer, more lavish homes and luxury towers went up in places where they had never been built before—including Harlem, but not without controversy. And buyers as well as developers went into mega-debt to get in the game. We realized we had the perfect two characters to take us into that world. Dwight Dixon and his domineering and antagonistic father, King Dixon were characters from Better Than I Know Myself that readers loved to hate, and their family business was Harlem real estate. So in Uptown we explore both the family dynamics that weigh on Dwight and his cousin, Avery Lyons who grew up like a sister to him, as well as the pressure to be successful, at any cost, and the personal toll it takes.
OP: From “Exposures” to “Uptown”, how has your writing style changed to fit with the “fashion” of today’s novels? Has it changed much?
DBG: Maybe because everything around us happens in a nanosecond, readers now want to get into a story quickly and be grabbed from the word go. Through the years our style has become leaner and faster—Exposures, if we wrote it today, would be 100 pages shorter. Also, we have received some pressure to be more gritty and sexually explicit. We have always dealt with adult situations, but it is not our style to give the blow-by-blow details, so to speak. We like to set up the situations and the emotions for the characters, get them and the readers in the mood, and leave you to fantasize the details. That’s the beauty of reading. Mind play is half the fun.
OP: I’m fairly new to the reading, writing scene and I anticipate seeing you ladies around for quite a while to come. But I have to ask, after all these years, your team work stands strong, can you tell us what keeps you both in-tuned with each other?
DBG: Our friendship is at the base of everything we do, and even if we were not writing the friendship would be going strong. As writers we respect each other’s abilities and opinions. Those things are true of our friendship as well, plus we crack each other up regularly. How cool is it to be able to hang out with your friend all the time, travel together, share your successes, be encouraged when you are hitting a rough patch and you’re making a living doing what you love? Doesn’t get much better than that.
OP: You both have a prosperous longevity within business. And it is truly inspirational. What bit of advice, about the industry, can you give to aspiring writers?
DBG: Up and coming authors must remember that while writing is a means of personal expression, publishing is a business—it’s about the bottom line. Whatever sells the most is what you will see in your bookstores and there is no allegiance to authors just because they have published before. Of course this isn’t an excuse not to write the best book you can because being a good storyteller will be what keeps readers coming back. And just like when there was a shift from CD’s to downloads in the record business, publishers are trying to figure out how to make a profit in this new day. At one point we even found our writing career in jeopardy as a result of the state of flux. The economic struggle that resulted sparked our last book What Doesn’t Kill You (now out in paperback). It’s about a woman who loses her long time job and has to re-evaluate everything in her life as a result. Sounds serious, and some parts are, but our narrator—Tee Hodges has a way to see the humor even in her challenges. That book was the way we made lemonade out of some very big lemons. The good news—there are more ways than ever to reach out to readers and let them know about your work. Take advantage of the access the internet provides Readers are always on the look out for fresh talent, they are very welcoming and love to spread the word about they’re new discovery.
OP: And in looking forward to seeing many more from you, can I ask what’s next for DeBerry and Grant?
DBG: We have plotted out a book that we can’t wait to get on the page. It’s too early for specifics, but like Uptown it is about a timely topic and how it affects all of us on a daily basis. We’re looking to have some fun writing it and hope it will keep readers talking.
Ladies, again, thank you for this opportunity to interview such a magnificent duo. You are very much cherished and appreciated for the words you bring to us. Much continued success and a lifetime of stories to tell.
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http://Myspace:http://myspace.com/twomindsfullALL NOVELS BY DEBERRY AND GRANT: Titles: Uptown, Tryin' to Sleep in the Bed You Made, Far From the Tree, Better Than I Know Myself, Gotta Keep on Tryin', What Doesn't Kill You, & Exposures as Marie Joyce
Win a copy of UPTOWN: Post this link to your FB or Twitter pages; leave a comment here for the authors and a winner will be selected by Friday March 5th